jwfacts, that is good advice. He is simply helping his children learn to reason clearly so they can do well in school - an admirable motivation for a loving Father! Discussing history in general and the history of science and religion in particular are good strategies. Discuss the many parasitical diseases that exist on earth and let them ask how parasites fulfill god's purpose.
Nathan Natas
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Preventing a minor child from being baptized if you are their parent
by RayPublisher inthere may be no way legally for me to stop this, but it is a worry since i "woke up" to the truth about the truth a couple years ago.. now my young kids (9 and 11) are heading in that direction at the urging of their mother.
i am still inside and trying to do a fade (for family/friend reasons) but sometimes i wonder if leaving would be smarter in the long run for them.
any thoughts or strategies are welcome.. .
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Preventing a minor child from being baptized if you are their parent
by RayPublisher inthere may be no way legally for me to stop this, but it is a worry since i "woke up" to the truth about the truth a couple years ago.. now my young kids (9 and 11) are heading in that direction at the urging of their mother.
i am still inside and trying to do a fade (for family/friend reasons) but sometimes i wonder if leaving would be smarter in the long run for them.
any thoughts or strategies are welcome.. .
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Nathan Natas
Pbrow, your entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong.
If he breaks the family now, he will be seen as a "spiritual threat" to his wife and kids, and the WT will help her gain custody of them. By breaking the family, he will lose time he could spend with his kids and will subject them to unneccessary economic hardship. First he needs to get his wife in line and then he needs to begin discovering the flaws in the Watchtower TOGETHER WITH THEM, not as a demonic outsider.
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Preventing a minor child from being baptized if you are their parent
by RayPublisher inthere may be no way legally for me to stop this, but it is a worry since i "woke up" to the truth about the truth a couple years ago.. now my young kids (9 and 11) are heading in that direction at the urging of their mother.
i am still inside and trying to do a fade (for family/friend reasons) but sometimes i wonder if leaving would be smarter in the long run for them.
any thoughts or strategies are welcome.. .
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Nathan Natas
Ask the elders for TWO Bethel applications, and have your wife help them fill it out.
Maybe the elders will mention that they're too young for bethel. "But why? They're young and full of zeal. You boys DID want to go to Bethel, didn't you?"
If your wife brings up the "rather than MEN" quotefirst show her that this applies to "wolrdly" men, not CHISTIAN FATHERS, then counter wiith Paul's " women should be SILENT" comment. If she gives you grief, take her to the elders.
the cards are all in your favor if you play them right.
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Preventing a minor child from being baptized if you are their parent
by RayPublisher inthere may be no way legally for me to stop this, but it is a worry since i "woke up" to the truth about the truth a couple years ago.. now my young kids (9 and 11) are heading in that direction at the urging of their mother.
i am still inside and trying to do a fade (for family/friend reasons) but sometimes i wonder if leaving would be smarter in the long run for them.
any thoughts or strategies are welcome.. .
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Nathan Natas
Challenge your wife to explain why infant baptism is wrong and what the signs of "maturity" are.
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Preventing a minor child from being baptized if you are their parent
by RayPublisher inthere may be no way legally for me to stop this, but it is a worry since i "woke up" to the truth about the truth a couple years ago.. now my young kids (9 and 11) are heading in that direction at the urging of their mother.
i am still inside and trying to do a fade (for family/friend reasons) but sometimes i wonder if leaving would be smarter in the long run for them.
any thoughts or strategies are welcome.. .
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Nathan Natas
Your kids may have become convinced that they need to be baptized to assure their survival at Armageddon.
If so, this is proof of their SPIRITUAL IMMATURITY and lack of "accurate knowledge."
Throughout the years, the WTB&TS has made it clear that minor children will benefit from the faith of their parents.
Since both you and your wife are JWs in good standing, it is entirely appropriate that your MINOR, DEPENDANT children not be forced into a decision they are not mature enough to make.
You would not let your kids get married at this age, and Bethel would not consider them as volunteers at this age.
They might also be "too young" to be full-time pioneers, but I'm not certain of that.
You can make a big, JUSTIFIED stink about how you will not tolerate having your children question your "god given" authority.
In this instance, you may be of more help to them by not leaving so soon. you can protect your kids better by using your headship to shield them from harmful WTB&TS radiation.
Good luck!
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WATCHTOWER WRONGFULL DEATH LAWSUIT - UPDATE
by Lawrence Hughes indear friends,.
i wish to thank everyone who has helped me over the past nine years to fight the watchtower society in court.
as a result of your kind support there has been important legal precedents set, a tremendous amount of media coverage created and numerous magazine articles published to expose the watchtower society and many lives have been saved.
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Nathan Natas
What is your schedule for repaying all those who helped you out over the past nine years?
Or do you intend to return to your architectural career and just figure that your supporters made a "bad bet?"
If the later, please explain to me how you are morally superior to the WTB&TS.
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I prayed for a Kitty today
by pedal power inme and my wife,a non jw,took her 3 year old country cat to see the vet in edinburgh, i left her at the vets with the cat and went to work, i gave her 20 pounds and told her to get a cab into town to meet me at work.
the vet removes the chicken bone from the cats throat,{the little bastard stole it ,when we were not looking} anyway she gets a bus with cat into town,cost only 1 pound, she does not get cab she keeps 19pounds.
typical, only the cat manages to wriggle out the basket,on princess street, terrified runs helter skelter accross 2, 4 lane highways, avoiding buses taxis,ect, my wife terrified screaming down the phone at me,to come and protect and save her beloved cat.f__k ,my whole world was collapsing before me, i prayed that kitty would live, my wife is sensitive, and she would have been inconsolable had the kitty died on her watch, so i ran out of work, drove through red lights, and prayed,that the little cat survived.
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Nathan Natas
You're a good guy. Sometimes we're called on to do things like that, and we do them.
It was the right thing to do for your wife, and it was the right thing to do for the kitty.
Two lives are a bit happier today than they might otherwise have been. Maybe yours, too.
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Why I didnt left JW an dont plan to do so
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in another thread i wrote: i didn't left the jw's and don't plan to do so.
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Nathan Natas
In your case I think it is right that you didn't left.
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Am I nuts or something?
by Terry ini retired in the middle of may.. i know many of you would love to have endless free time on your hands too.. right?.
ummm, well..... i'm use to being very active.
i use to stand on my feet eight hours a day.. at the bookstore i'd have to squat, stoop, stretch, lift, walk.. i had to sort, answer question, make change.
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Nathan Natas
T, you're not nuts, but I think you could better utilize your time by looking into volunteer work at a hospital, or, if you can handle it, with a veterinay clinic. You are too great a resource to be used up with game shows and the like. just my $1/50.
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Nathan Natas
Farkle is presently on a deep-cover operation for UADNA vacation.